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Latest comment: 11 years ago by CT Cooper in topic Friendly space policy

Hello, Welcome, and welcome to Wikimania planning Wiki! Our volunteers and organizing team are what will make Wikimania 2013 the best conference it can possibly be. In addition to performing vital functions and providing much-needed help, volunteers will aid with organization in the months leading up to the conference.

Remember, that you can contact us at any moment!--Cekli829 (talk) 10:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thank for the welcome. I most certainly want to participate, and I will consider formally volunteering when the call for volunteers is made. I won't be much help as a sponsor though! CT Cooper (talk) 14:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)Reply


I've always thought {{@}} was good enough. But I guess there's little harm in importing an extra {{nospam}}. Deryck Chan (talk) 17:05, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I confused the two templates and thought I was importing {{@}} when I was actually importing {{nospam}}. I personally prefer the former, but as you say, there's no harm in giving users a choice. CT Cooper · talk 19:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply


And thank you very much for the welcome!

Do you have any idea regarding this question? Any help would be great. Cheers, Mel 23 (talk) 21:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi Mel. Unfortunately I'm not a part of the core organizing team so I cannot help you much here. The message you've gotten is the same one I got when registering, which is what I expected as I'm not entitled to a discount and there is no sales tax (VAT) in Hong Kong - therefore it maybe the case that your discount code isn't being recognized, or it could be giving that message to everyone regardless. If you're question is not answered within the next few days and you're still having problems, I would suggest dropping an e-mail to the main enquiry e-mail address at wikimania-p@wikimedia.hk. CT Cooper · talk 21:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


something seemed wrong - thanks sats (talk) 15:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome. CT Cooper · talk 17:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Friendly space policy

Hi Cristopher. Thanks for your interest in "Friendly virtual space policy". You have written you are a critic of the current "Friendly space policy". Could you share one or two of your main concerns, I'm happy to learn. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 08:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. Yes, I'm very interested in your proposal as I think the issue needs much more discussion, and on the idea of a virtual friendly space policy, my immediate thoughts were how polarised the debates on civility policy are on the English Wikipedia, particularly when it comes to enforcement. I do have some concerns about the friendly space policy for conferences - unfortunately when I raised concerns with someone who happened to be an employee of the Foundation, the response I got back was along the lines of "your either with us or against us, and if your against us you think harassment and unlimited use of sexual content in presentations is awesome". I didn't look at the disapproval matrix before using the term "critic", but it puts me in the right place.
As for my specific concerns, my first would be that, at least from my perspective as an ordinary Wikimedian interested in Wikimania, the policy seemed to come from nowhere - some time for consultation at the very least should have been given, as it was to become an important document. I gave some comments on the issue at the Wikimania 2012 feedback which further elaborate on my concerns - see wm2012:Feedback#Sessions quality, although at the time I was under the impression that it was up to the chapter for each conference to decide the behavioural policy, and there still seems to be some confusion on this - see User talk:Varnent.
I think I should also note, particularity given the recent announcement that Wikimania will take place in London next year, that the Wikimedia UK policy on the issue is subtly different. The friendly space policy for this conference states - "Harassment also includes sexual images in public spaces" while the WMUK one states "Harassment also includes inappropriate sexual or distressing images in public spaces", which gives a little more leeway. On a more trivial point, I prefer the name "participation policy" as I believe policy names should be boring and purely factual. CT Cooper · talk 20:37, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and concerns. You are probably right the policy for events came from nowhere, that is, without much consultation. The presentation for an online policy is a first step in consultation. As of now there is no draft policy beyond the title. Looking forward to polite talk about pros and cons for a policy and its contents. You make a valid point about enforcement, I'm not looking toward enforcement. Starting point is we want to accomplish, where do we share values, what do we want to create, and what do we have in common. Think compliance, think positive, think constructive. Forget about enforcement. Ultimately it is also about how you and me deal with polarised debates, for example about civiliy policy on the English Wikipedia and other websites of the Wikimedia Foundation. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 21:50, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Yes I would agree that starting with what we agree on is a good approach - when we settle that we can build from there. Discussion in any case is critical, which is why I'm pleased we're going more in that direction, as for many people, if they perceive that something is just being imposed on them, then they will instinctively oppose it. CT Cooper · talk 17:00, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Reply